Sharman Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 First post, I have been searching a lot of bay boats and pathfinder is the one. I am interested in more of a DIY boat to make it just the way I want without buying new. The question is about length and engine obviously the 22te would be ideal but from reading on here it looks like for RPM's to match MPH at cruise a 250 HP would be needed probably the SHO. I really like the size of the 2000v but for RPM to match MPH a 200hp (i4 or HPDI) would be needed which would be over rated, and this model boat has porpoising issues along with the scupper issue. I would like ask if anyone can tell me where the two feet was added between these two boats, how bad the porpoising is on the 2000v, and thoughts on a 200hp on a 2000v. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishmanjj Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 I have a friend with a 2005 year model 2000v with a 2016 Yamaha F200 and it runs good. It does not porpoise......it's not a speed demon compared to others, but it does run in the mid 40's with no problems. He did have to play around with props at first, but Marcus at Power Tech Props got him all fixed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharman Posted June 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 I wonder what prop they ended up using @fishmanjj. How was the hole shot on that boat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FINCHASER Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 I own a 2000.. the porpoising is not a concern, it is prone to it slightly if not running any tabs and easing along at cruise speeds. The 2 feet was added at the rear of the boat. Personally I don't see any need for running more than a 150hp... plenty of power with that motor and great holeshot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharman Posted June 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Thank you @FINCHASER for that input. Since the 2ft was added in the rear, are the livewells smaller in the 2000v or is the cockpit space smaller? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headhunter Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 I believe most of the 2 feet was removed just forward of the console or there about creating a shorter forward rod locker. When I compared the space between my 20 to the 22TE side by side there was maybe 3 inches difference aft of the console most in the live well configuration. That's all in the top cap. These are two totally different animals and they run and handle differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamaskeet Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 The 2000V and the 2200V appear to have the same rear bait wells. But the front deck is shorter. I keep a five gallon bucket with a cast net in the front storage area of my 2200V. A five gallon bucket will not fit in my 2000V. There is only 18" difference in length. Pathfinders are great boats, but they can be very finicky. The 2000V is more finicky than the 2200V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharman Posted June 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 The 22 would be perfect but for me I'm leaning toward the 2000v mostly due to size even though it's only 18" inch difference I agree they are two different animals. I really think the 2000v with a z200 hpdi would perform well. It would weigh approx the same as the F150 PF put on new. The numbers i can find from a 2000v with a f150 are around 3500rpm 30mph WOT 45-50mph. I would really like to see the boat match RPM and MPH whether or not that is practical or possible is TBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FINCHASER Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 3 hours ago, Bamaskeet said: The 2000V and the 2200V appear to have the same rear bait wells. But the front deck is shorter. I keep a five gallon bucket with a cast net in the front storage area of my 2200V. A five gallon bucket will not fit in my 2000V. There is only 18" difference in length. Pathfinders are great boats, but they can be very finicky. The 2000V is more finicky than the 2200V. Front deck is shorter in the 20" transom boats... keep in mind for apple to apple comparison that originally pathys were 20" and in 06 or 08 they came out with the XL hulls with 25" transom... this translated into hulls with higher gunnels and decks than 20" transom boats. At some point the 20" transom models in the 22' were dropped and now all have the 25" Best advice I could give on deciding 20 vs 22 is where you will be spenging that time... inshore or offshore. Either one will work but if inshore the 20 has a very slight edge if offshore id definatley go with the 22 (25") due to its capability to handle rough water better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishmanjj Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 The prop on the F200 is a Yamaha polished stainless 13 1/2 x 19 three blade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamaskeet Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 On June 15, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Sharman said: The 22 would be perfect but for me I'm leaning toward the 2000v mostly due to size even though it's only 18" inch difference I agree they are two different animals. I really think the 2000v with a z200 hpdi would perform well. It would weigh approx the same as the F150 PF put on new. The numbers i can find from a 2000v with a f150 are around 3500rpm 30mph WOT 45-50mph. I would really like to see the boat match RPM and MPH whether or not that is practical or possible is TBD. It appears you are predominately interested in speed and not overall fish ability. I suggest you look at a Shearwater, I believe they run on a pad like a bass boat and would give you the speed you are looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishmanjj Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 The 2200 will run in mid 50's with the same z200 hpdi on it. My year model 2000 / 2400v had the 200 hpdi on it for 790 hours and 8 years until I put the F250 on it. The boat consistently ran in the mid 50's with 3 blade salt water series prop. I put the F250 on the 2400v in 2008 and I gained only 4 to 5 mph for the extra 50 horses. With : No bait well water, low fuel, one person.....maybe hit 60 on a really slick day. Not to mention the extra 100 lbs sitting on the transom didn't help the balance that the boat was designed to have. That's why PF came out with the XL hull, to accommodate the big heavy four strokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharman Posted June 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Pathfinder has the better layout in my opinion when compared to shearwater and to add the way they wire boats does not look like it is meant to last. I just have happened to have used multiple z200 yamaha's and have seen these engines run upwards to 2500 hr's. I am interested in optimizing the boat with the most ponies yet keeping fishabiity. Sounds like the 2200v with the z200 would be matching RPM and MPH at cruise which would be ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Tyler Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 I have a 2005 22TE with a 2014 F200 (Inline-4) I have about 800 hours on it and it hasn't had a hiccup yet. Great fuel economy. I have a PowerTech OFX4 17P on it and with just me and half a talk, I can run 51mph @ 6k. The holeshot is spectacular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharman Posted June 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 @Capt. Tyler those are good numbers, and that is just what I'd like to hear about the Inline 4 F200 nice repower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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