geeviam Posted January 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Mik said: Love the new idea with the relays. Question - are they large enough for the amps required by the motor? Thanks Yes they are - same specs, but better quality. Here is a picture of a relay shell that came with the Atlas, along with the spec sheet on the Temco relay: cn0171_data_sheet.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BattleFish Posted May 19, 2020 Report Share Posted May 19, 2020 THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!! The relays are now $16.71 and 30 minutes of wiring and it works. This is awesome. The relays plug into the relay outlets and are pretty hard to get out of and into the outlets bases. The relay outlets bases connect together and I velcro'd them to my terminal area so I can pull them easily if they do go bad. Saved me $140 plus bucks. If you're ever in Jacksonville, FL I'll buy you a beer. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geeviam Posted May 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2020 Glad to hear it worked for you! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jh141 Posted May 19, 2020 Report Share Posted May 19, 2020 Update on the older steel case Atlas Jack Plate Motors that rust. I ordered one from East Lake Marine Electric. It is a great replacement seeing as it was only $160.00 dollars. Easy install. Run the jack plate all the way up. Support the motor. Remove the old motor. There is a coupler between the motor and pump that can get lost so pay attention. Had to take a couple of thousands off the flat sides of the new motor drive to fit the coupler losely like it should. Put back togeather, all done. The hard part for me was running the wires. Had to get a new bulk head fitting that Pathfinder uses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyB Posted May 19, 2020 Report Share Posted May 19, 2020 You did good finding a motor. I searched everywhere the Parker motor that was on the atlas jack plate. Ended up having to replace the motor assembly with the new one for 600 or so bucks 🤕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BattleFish Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 Relays working great on my Atlas as suggested above, since May install. I raise and lower 6-10 times each trip and fish two to four times a week. I do wonder though how Atlas can buy an ATLAS decal that lasts three years and can't buy relays that last that long. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanaflatsfish Posted August 14, 2020 Report Share Posted August 14, 2020 On 5/19/2020 at 4:17 PM, jh141 said: Update on the older steel case Atlas Jack Plate Motors that rust. I ordered one from East Lake Marine Electric. It is a great replacement seeing as it was only $160.00 dollars. Easy install. Run the jack plate all the way up. Support the motor. Remove the old motor. There is a coupler between the motor and pump that can get lost so pay attention. Had to take a couple of thousands off the flat sides of the new motor drive to fit the coupler losely like it should. Put back togeather, all done. The hard part for me was running the wires. Had to get a new bulk head fitting that Pathfinder uses. a trick that HOBO on the forum taught me is when installing motors etc. in the bilge area is to spray the motor with a a clear coat lacquer to protect it int he salt water environment. As well, to seal off any potential water entrance by sealing with clear sealant (window) from home cheapo. DC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
####skeeter1 Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 I built my own harness after rat chewed wiring in my boat. Relays shorted out the first time I touched the switch.Costed 22 dollars and about an hour. I used the old atlas harness wiring to stay with color codes. Fairly simple parts were at auto zone lol saved some serious cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BattleFish Posted January 5, 2021 Report Share Posted January 5, 2021 On 5/19/2020 at 1:36 PM, BattleFish said: THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!! The relays are now $16.71 and 30 minutes of wiring and it works. This is awesome. The relays plug into the relay outlets and are pretty hard to get out of and into the outlets bases. The relay outlets bases connect together and I velcro'd them to my terminal area so I can pull them easily if they do go bad. Saved me $140 plus bucks. If you're ever in Jacksonville, FL I'll buy you a beer. Installed in May 2020, still working great. Hundreds of cycles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyB Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 I have had an intermittent issue with my atlas. The plate will not move up or down from the blinker switch. Then for no reason it works again in both directions. Of corse it will not stop working when I can trouble shoot it. I just ordered the relays. Hopefully I can make it more reliable by taking the sealed relays out of play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyB Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 I know this may not be a popular post but i could not bring myself to use the relays I ordered. I was not impressed with the fit of the relay to the plug. I could not get them all the way in with out beating on them or squeezing them with channel locks. when i tried to pull the relay out of the plug the cap popped off the relay. Still i moved forward with the change out and realized how many connections i was going to have in the bilge. splitting power and grounds to both relays and such. Just too much when i was not completely satisfied with the relay and the plug. I bought the T&H relay on amazon for 130ish bucks. No i do not have money to burn but in the grand scheme of money spent on boats i am much more comfortable with the sealed box and less connections. The first one lasted 9 to 10 years so I am ok with taking the chance on the sealed relays again. On a side note once i realized that to run the jack plate around the relays, you have to jump both wires, one to to positive the other to negative I'm convinced the jack plate operation ,or lack there of, will never keep me from running the boat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geeviam Posted May 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 4 hours ago, HoneyB said: I know this may not be a popular post but i could not bring myself to use the relays I ordered. I was not impressed with the fit of the relay to the plug. I could not get them all the way in with out beating on them or squeezing them with channel locks. when i tried to pull the relay out of the plug the cap popped off the relay. Still i moved forward with the change out and realized how many connections i was going to have in the bilge. splitting power and grounds to both relays and such. Just too much when i was not completely satisfied with the relay and the plug. I bought the T&H relay on amazon for 130ish bucks. No i do not have money to burn but in the grand scheme of money spent on boats i am much more comfortable with the sealed box and less connections. The first one lasted 9 to 10 years so I am ok with taking the chance on the sealed relays again. On a side note once i realized that to run the jack plate around the relays, you have to jump both wires, one to to positive the other to negative I'm convinced the jack plate operation ,or lack there of, will never keep me from running the boat. Hey Man, it's all good. Do what you feel comfortable with. I'm not a relay salesman. I just thought the quality of the Temco relays was superior to the generic ones I found in the TH harness. I doubt I'll ever have to worry about it again though, as I will probably never buy another jack plate. But if I do, it will be a Bob's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernWake Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 35 minutes ago, geeviam said: But if I do, it will be a Bob's. At the end of the day, this is what you need to know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Les Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 Are you both red and white leads together in the alumiconn connectors and coming out with a black ground. It was hard to see in the photo. Great job by the way. Thanks Les 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geeviam Posted August 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 9:59 AM, Capt Les said: Are you both red and white leads together in the alumiconn connectors and coming out with a black ground. It was hard to see in the photo. Great job by the way. Thanks Les Thank you. It IS hard to see in the photo, but that is correct. The alumiconn connectors are just a cool way to make good watertight connections, but all that really matters is that the wire colors/connections match up with the drawing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dave Posted August 7, 2021 Report Share Posted August 7, 2021 Recently the TH Marine Atlas Micro Jacker on my skiff quit working. I learned a lot today, thanks mostly to Mike Kilcrease (South Florida Yamaha tech--best marine mechanic I've ever worked with. DM me if you want his contact information or have questions). Here's what I learned from Mike and on the web and what we did to get it working again (better than ever since I've had the skiff). Never continue to hold the switch in the up or down position after the jack plate has completed travel in that direction. Doing so can damage the motor pump and could burn out the fuse. Fortunately, this was not the issue. Always rinse the jack plate off after every use. DO NOT apply any grease as this causes build up of dirt and debris, causing the jack plate to stick or jump (this is what we discovered was the problem with mine). There was a great deal of build up so we scraped away and picked out everything that we could, sprayed it with cleaner and then used Dawn Dishwashing liquid and a power washer to finish it up. After allowing it to dry we sprayed it with a silicon based lubricant on the bolt slides. The jack plate works better than ever, and I am able to raise it higher than I ever have since I've owned the skiff. I'm going to be more diligent about keeping the bolt slides clean and lubricated. As Bob LeMay says, "aren't boats fun?"! IMG_4836.MOV IMG_4841.MOV IMG_4840.MOV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jh141 Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 I Have to second Mike Kilcrease. Big Dave give me his info and he did a reseal on my Lower uint. He is a Great Mechanic, fast,fair and reliable. Glad you got it dialed in Dave. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geeviam Posted August 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 On 8/7/2021 at 7:14 PM, Big Dave said: Recently the TH Marine Atlas Micro Jacker on my skiff quit working. Been hearing good reports and recommendations on this aftermarket kit, that adds strength and rigidity to an Atlas Micro Jacker plate: https://hullmarineproducts.com/micro-jack-reinforcement https://www.microskiff.com/threads/atlas-microjack-reinforcement-kits.85540/#post-832129 https://www.microskiff.com/threads/atlas-micro-reinforcement-kit.83361/#post-822439 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Ogburn Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 Geeviam. I went and purchased the Temco relays with red,black,white,blue and yellow leads. My epoxy bedded Atlas relays have in various places red, blue, green, black, and purple wires. I am totally confused as to what connects to what and how. Can you help. Thanks. Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geeviam Posted October 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 The thin blue, green and purple wires are the "switch wires" on my wiring diagram, coming from the switch on your console. All the wires in the diagram that connect to pins on the relays ARE the colored wires that come from the Temco Socket that you describe. The heavier red, black, blue, and green wires on your boat are positive and negative from the battery - and the blue and green wires coming from the jack plate. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geeviam Posted October 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 On 10/16/2021 at 10:31 PM, Pat Ogburn said: Geeviam. I went and purchased the Temco relays with red,black,white,blue and yellow leads. My epoxy bedded Atlas relays have in various places red, blue, green, black, and purple wires. I am totally confused as to what connects to what and how. Can you help. Thanks. Pat Pat, Hull Marine Products is making some aftermarket addons for Atlas jack plates, that are better than OEM. Here's a post from the Microskiff forum about a new, better quality relay harness at a good price: https://www.microskiff.com/threads/more-jack-plate-problems.94827/post-915125 Here's a link to the company's website: https://hullmarineproducts.com/ PM me if you'd like more help with connecting your boat wiring to your new relays. Glad to help if you still want to DIY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhoj_yelbom Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 I used sealed relay plugs, and relays. All looks quality, not like the off brand ebay amazon specials. $30 total cost NTE ELECTRONICS R95-191 5-PIN SOCKET 50A, R51-5D40-12FW relays 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Talbert Posted July 24, 2022 Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 http://Buyers Products Forward and Reverse Relay Module https://a.co/dFgQLLE this is all you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geeviam Posted July 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 21 hours ago, Steven Talbert said: http://Buyers Products Forward and Reverse Relay Module https://a.co/dFgQLLE this is all you need. Here's the correct link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F4JLQWN/ Nice option! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jh141 Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 That is a great option. Thanks for sharing!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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