whichwaysup Posted November 11, 2016 Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 Hey folks. I just put a deposit down on a 2001 Master Angler. If everything checks out, I will be the new owner. Is there ANYONE in the Ft. Myers area on this forum who's willing to do a brother a favor and put eyes on this thing for me? Its at Cape Tool and Tackle. I wont' be able to arrange a visit down there as quickly as I'd like. I know it's asking a lot, but if anyone drives by that area and is willing to just confirm visually what I've been told, I'd be eternally grateful. Hard to coordinate these things from NC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg G Posted November 11, 2016 Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 I'm on Pine Island and go by Cape Tool and Tackle all the time. I'd be glad to stop by and take a look at it for you. I can even email/text pictures if you like. Ironically, I live on the Outer Banks so I'm a fellow Tar Heel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsnook35 Posted November 11, 2016 Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 I'll be down in that area next week if you still need someone to check it out for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whichwaysup Posted November 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 Greg, I would be very grateful if you could stop by. I am going to be sealing the deal early in the week once I get a few pics and the compression numbers from the mechanic. based on the convo with the owner, the boat should be in excellent shape physically with only one blemish in the gel coat on the deck. it will be a little dirty, but a quick visual will tell you if he's being honest. small lies = big lies, so based on what the condition should be, it should be pretty obvious if the reality doesn't match. Big snook, I may take you up on your offer yet, but will let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Its on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsnook35 Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Just let me know bud. I'll do anything I can to help out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50eggs Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Whichwaysup, I was just driving by Cape Tool and stopped in. Overall, the boat looks good. One crack in the deck which they said they discussed with you. I looked at the underside of the hull as best I could and did not see any evidence of damage or repairs. Wiring looked aged but OK, however I did not test anything electrical, nor did I hear the engine run. The trailer and tires appear to be in good shape, but did not see trailer lights work, etc. The boat does appear to have been "fished hard and put away wet" on a regular basis and is in dire need of a good detailing (pet peeve of mine). I always wonder if they let the general cosmetic care slip, what else may have gone without attention. That being said, if you have the engine and electrical checked out and everything is OK, I think you've got a solid boat for the price. Let me know how it turns out! Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whichwaysup Posted November 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Bob, Thanks so much for swinging by and looking at it. I can't tell you how much it helps and is pretty darned cool to have folKS on this forum willing to do it. I heard from Greg too that it was a bit of a disaster cosmetically (dirty). certainly looks different than the Craigslist pictures. I am a bit of a freak about keeping the boat clean so my question is, can it be cleaned up? Does it look like long term dirt build up or build up from the past year? any other issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50eggs Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 The majority of the dirty areas were in the hatch compartments and had lots of tree litter, like those little pollen things from oaks, etc. They can definitely be cleaned up but are probably never going to look new (have to remember the boat is 15 years old). Will definitely take some elbow grease to make those areas nice. I didn't look in there, but Brian told me the bilge was in bad shape (dirty) and they had used some bilge cleaner to try and neaten it up a bit. Brian said the boat had a full cover so my question would be why wasn't it used? Again, I just always wonder if the easy stuff (washing) wasn't done, what else did they not do? My biggest concerns would be whether the engine had been flushed regularly, condition of the wiring, etc. I am probably too picky about this stuff. I just got done doing my semi-annual acid wash, wash, aqua buff and waxing of my Redfisher. My neighbors always think I am crazy when they see me on my back in the driveway running a buffer on the underside of my hull... If you have had a survey and it comes out OK and the price is right, I would probably buy the boat just understanding it needs some love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CG RYAN Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 Glad to see you are getting the boat. Definitely seems nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Troy Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 You need to visually check the stringer by the sea chest. Look for cracks both inside and outside around the sea chest. I have seen 3 21 MA come apart there. It will leak into the hull there if that issue is present. I would put the boat in the water and sea trial. Check bilge for water after a good sea trial. If there is any water in the bilge you better start looking around really good. I believe Master repair has fixed one with the issue. You may want to talk with them to get further details. It is not an easy fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50eggs Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 Whichwaysup, I know this is an 18.5 and not a 21, but I would defer to Capt. Troy here. I'm sure he has more knowledge about the MA's than I do. I certainly did not do any kind of inspection on the stringers, but based on what Brian said about the condition of the bilge and what Capt. Troy said about water intrusion into the bilge, I would want it checked out by someone who knows what they are doing. Capt. Troy, have the 18.5's had a similar issue as the 21's in this regard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Troy Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 Not to my knowledge. Sorry, I assumed it was a 21. No matter, they are great boats built by good folks who know how to build them. The early 21 MA had a small issue. Normally exposed by running like a maniac and pushing the limits. "tournaments" You will be getting a great hull design and a very good boat if said one has not been beat to death. The wires and appearance of a 15 year old hull is what it is. All can be fixed. I just spent 2 hours buffing the non skid on mine. Shiny and ready to repel the next 1000 dirty feet and shoes. I swear my customers walk and take pictures of the fork lift and walk around in the mess it makes before they board. There are certain areas you would want to check. The liners for the storage boxes/hatches are an indicator and if there is a crack in the deck somewhere I would have to research that real hard. Remember, I have guide friends that can ruin an iron wedge without ever leaving the dock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nag Juice Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 11 hours ago, Capt. Troy said: You need to visually check the stringer by the sea chest. Look for cracks both inside and outside around the sea chest. I have seen 3 21 MA come apart there. It will leak into the hull there if that issue is present. I would put the boat in the water and sea trial. Check bilge for water after a good sea trial. If there is any water in the bilge you better start looking around really good. I believe Master repair has fixed one with the issue. You may want to talk with them to get further details. It is not an easy fix. Troy was this the case for the 18 Master Angler too? I know of the 21MA issue but never heard of it with an 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whichwaysup Posted November 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 50 Eggs and Greg (and Big Snook if you are still willing!) - I spoke w/ the owner yesterday about the condition. He shot me a note last night saying he'd gotten her cleaned up. If either of you happen to pass by today and take a peek, I'd be curious to get your reaction. Not critical - at this point, pending the report and pics from the mechanic today, I think I'll be sealing the deal, but would be curious how well she cleaned up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justfish Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Im gonna miss you ohhhh-in and awwwwwwe-in at all the master anglers that came along in classifieds Congrat on boat. Don't got too worked up about the cleanliness focus on condition. You can always clean it. I've bought two of my MBC boats from other states site unseen. Both were one owner, well taken care but of dirty boats 🙄. I have a buddy in fort Meyers who just sold his old MA to his marine mechanic down there who's gonna redo whole thing. Might be a good guy to look over since he's familiar with the boats. Let me know it if you want I can try and track down his info. BTW I have same motor on my 22 Pathy and it's a beast of a motor for a 150. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsnook35 Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 I'll be in punta gorda Wednesday and can run down there if still needed. It will give me a happy break from working on the boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whichwaysup Posted November 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Thanks Justfish - Everything you wrote makes me feel better about this thing. At the end of the day, every used boat purchase is a risk, and I'm pretty comfortable with what I'm getting myself into. BTW, don't you think for one second that I'm going to stop ooooohing and awwwwwwwwing over every MA that shows up in the classifieds. There are no rules that say I can't own THREE or FOUR of these simultaneously . . . or is that greedy? Very good to know about that engine, btw - very excited at the prospect of having 150 horsies behind me. I was happy with the 115, and more is ALWAYS better. If you have that Marine Mechanic's info, I'd love to contact him. Big Snook - If you are willing to swing by and look at it and snap some pics, that would be great. I am hoping to have it shipped out of there Wednesday afternoon or Thursday a.m. - depending on when I get the check down to them. IF you want a free ride, the guys agreed to do a wet test if I can find someone who is wiling to go. A lot to ask though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Looks like it might be an OX66 motor, do you know? If so you will be very happy with the power. I have the same motor, however not OX66 mine is carb'd. Plenty of power, plenty of speed, but a little thirsty. You will do better on gas with the OX66/fuel injection. Hope it all works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whichwaysup Posted November 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Hurricane - yes, it is an ox66 - very happy to have confirmed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fin-addict Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 you will love the engine, 150hp vmax hpdi, pushes my 22 great. not thirsty at all imo. best of luck. fin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justfish Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 Mine is just like Mr Fin's -HPDI I was worried it would be a little underpowered on the 22'er as just about everyone but Mr Fin says 150 isn't enough. Took me one holeshot to put those worries aside. Likley the 6 cyl vs the 4 of the four stroke, but this motor has some nice low end power. You should be quite happy on that MA. I gotta admit I'm not familiar with the difference in ox66 and HPDI but believe they are both fuel injected motors. The instant start rather than finicky carb'ed start is worth it's weight in gold if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Troy Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 From what I remember the 0X 66 is a closed loop fuel injected motor. It does have the VST filter and 02 sensor which are shared components with the HPDI. Both of which are a maintenance item that is fairly simple to address. I had one that I kept for a long time and it was a good engine. Very strong in throttle response. Make sure you burn the recommended octane fuel in it and it being an older engine I would avoid the use of ethanol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whichwaysup Posted November 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 Thanks all - really appreciate it. I run non-e premium in my boat now, and have a station within a few minutes of the house and the ramp, so between that and Ring free, I'm hoping to keep this thing running for many years. The check was sent out today - boat should be delivered in a week or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEM Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 Congratulations!!!!! We will be on standby for some close up pictures and grins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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