Bw boone Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Hello everyone, I have been doing a lot of reading lately about the Maverick 21' master angler but could not find out how the construction changed from the earlier models year 2000-2011. I am looking at buying a 2002 model and read the weight was 1300 lbs. and the year 2007- was 2350. I also read where some wer fiberglass and some are fiberglass/carbon mix. I also read about some hull problems on some of the older models but didn't know if this was from user abuse. Also looking at a 22' pathfinder te. Seems like the pf would be a good fit also. Thanks for your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justfish Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 There are guys more knowledgeable of the 21MA than I that can prob help better but best of my knowledge they didn't build a Kevlar 21 but did do the hatches in CK in some of them. There were def years you need to be careful of. @Capt. Troyon here seems to be resident 21 expert, maybe he will chime in. As far as 21ma vs 22 pathfinder, that's a subject that gets debated a lot. Plenty of reading on that subject, but basically except for the aforementioned problem boats, it's hard to go wrong with whichever serves your needs best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Troy Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 The real experts on this boat are off today. They did build 1 carbon Kevlar one I believe. The weights your seeing are 1300/1250 as a dry hull weight. The 2350 weight is rigged including engine. The only real change was around 2010 when they changed the cap which raised the cap approximately 1 inch and I believe there was a change made to the stringers height and the transom knees of the stringers. The live well was changed in 2010 and they incorporated the new design well and drain system. I don't think there was ever really any type of inherent hull issues. There may have been a issue with the stringers on the starboard side around the sea chest as I know of 3 failures at that location. 2 of those boats had towers on them and were run very hard. I believe it was 98 or 99 when the 21 MA was introduced. My first was a 99 and I had over 3000 engine running hours and 4 engines on that boat. My 2010 now has a little over 1300 engine hours. The 21 is a 60 MPH boat when rigged for fishing. Rides great and is very stable at rest. It can be polled short distances and shorter ones once you get your AARP card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bw boone Posted November 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Thank you for the reply Justfish, l have been saving my money for quite a few years and don't want to end up with problems down the road.i like the Maverick but I think my wife would like the pathfinder better. most of my fishing now has been in the pases with lots of boat traffic and some backwaters but it would me nice to hit some of the near shore wrecks.on good days. i have also been doing some reading about Yamaha 250 hpdi problems and it seems like the older 150-200hp models were a great motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bw boone Posted November 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Thanks Capt. Troy, great info, this answers a lot of questions I had. My wife has a bad back but loves to go fishing with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Can't give much on construction, but. The MA is faster and fishes much better. Also I think MA can offer a more comfortable seating option. I owned a 22 Pathfinder and my wife never found the leaning post comfortable. My current boat 18MA has the Tempress high back seats, and she loves the seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bw boone Posted November 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Thanks Hurricane, I am leaning towards the Maverick and have been communicating with someone that has a 2002 model that needs some upgrading. Looking forward to head south into Everglades national park or offshore on the right days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linesider 159 Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 The big block hpdis certainly had their fair share of issues. Take note whatever boat you buy. I'd almost prefer more hours than less on those. I rode on 2000-2004 ish master angler not long ago with a 225. With 2 of us, live wells full, etc. We saw 54 or 55. Didn't get to test the ride much but it seemed pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bw boone Posted November 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 Thanks Linesider 159, why would more hours be better. Als will there be that much of a difference in fuel used going with a 200 hpdi over a 250? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whichwaysup Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 There are rumors of some stringer issues on the 21 - as Capt. Troy alluded to. I don't know, to his point, if they are frequent or the same few that got shared. The boat you are looking at will either already show signs, or it won't likely have an issue (unless you beat the heck out of it). It wouldn't stop me from buying one, or even slow me down, but it WOULD cause me to pay for a marine surveyor to take a detailed look at the hull before I stroked the check. (That from a guy who just bought a 16 year old Master angler sight unseen!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linesider 159 Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 6 hours ago, Bw boone said: Thanks Linesider 159, why would more hours be better. Als will there be that much of a difference in fuel used going with a 200 hpdi over a 250? Usually hpdis are hit or miss. If one has 800 hours and hasn't blown I'd trust it more than one with 100 hours. Also, there are 2 types of 200 hpdis, the Grey duck bill cowling which is an awesome motor, and the big block 200. I ran 89 octane in my 250 hpdis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bw boone Posted November 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 Thanks for the help ! The one that I've been trying to buy has the gray cover unfortunately the person that listed it must be busy and haven't returned my phone calls so in the meantime I'll keep looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nag Juice Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 They're out there just keep your eyes open and be ready. A lot of deals pop up but go FAST. Do some research on the 02 and older hulls. The sea chest is on the starboard trim tab pocket. Some had issues and some didn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convertible13 Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 I've had a 2002 MA 21 with a 2 stroke 200hp for 4 years and absolutely love it. It floats fairly shallow but easily handles chop on open ocean runs. No stringer problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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