SeaVuPlay Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 Looks like somebody did a redesign, copy, haha. Check out the latest, greatest power-pole. Bye-bye Talon, hello Raptor. https://www.minnkotamotors.com/learn/featured-products/raptor?utm_source=ascent360&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mk_200629_Raptor_Launch_Announcement remainder&utm_term=MjUxMTk0NDAzNjkS1&utm_content=5612889&bc_hash=9d435ed96998c9f8d848efd8ce3503a2&spMailingID=5612889&spUserID=MjUxMTk0NDAzNjkS1&spJobID=1041141504&spReportId=MTA0MTE0MTUwNAS2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whichwaysup Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 Yep, looks very similar. Saw that it has teck to maintain constant pressure. does PP have the same tech? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Troy Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 Hope it's better than the other junk they put out to compete with PP. Plus, there is no way they can compete with their customer service. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Jazzy Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 29 minutes ago, Capt. Troy said: Plus, there is no way they can compete with their customer service. Amen!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bernieNC Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 PP has to have good customer service with as much attention (repair)as a PP needs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fin-addict Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 No one can compete with PP customer service. Saw it first hand last week. Free repair parts on a 95 unit. Not little parts, pump, motherboard and spike. 😀⚓️🙏fin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shallowminded6 Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 1 hour ago, bernieNC said: PP has to have good customer service with as much attention (repair)as a PP needs. Are Minn kota’s anchors known to be more durable and have less issues? Never really seen much on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bernieNC Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 5 hours ago, Shallowminded6 said: Are Minn kota’s anchors known to be more durable and have less issues? Never really seen much on them. I couldn’t say but the PP that THEY replaced last year sure was a pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuddyBottomBluz Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 Price point anyone? I was always able to get my parts without a problem for all my Minn Kota trolling Motors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamaskeet Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 I hope Minn Kota’s Raptor is more reliable than the Ulterra. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linesider 159 Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 53 minutes ago, Bamaskeet said: I hope Minn Kota’s Raptor is more reliable than the Ulterra. I don’t think it’s even possible to be less reliable than the ulterra. (I say this after I just bought a new black ulterra because it’s cool and I want it to match the boat) 🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahoossi Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 1 hour ago, linesider 159 said: I don’t think it’s even possible to be less reliable than the ulterra. (I say this after I just bought a new black ulterra because it’s cool and I want it to match the boat) 🤪 Yes it is . It is called the Talon. Total junk. I made the mistake of putting one on my bay boat. First one died. Mechanic tossed it even though it was still under warranty. Since I had all the hardware ( mount , etc , I replaced it with another. It died within 3 mths, stranding me as I couldn’t bring it in. Here is a picture of what it looked like inside. Like a cheap downrigger. It would never hold up in marine environment. I have the new one. Never holds in current or any bottom that isn’t squishy soft. Ready to dump this one as well. Only reason I bought it was it went deeper than the Powerpole. I have had a half dozen Powerpoles in my lifetime, great product and GREAT service. No need to buy anything else. I learned from my mistake. As far as the Ulterra, I have had two of them , both on my bay boat, and they have held up pretty well. I am starting to hear more negatives about Rhodan lately and I am not sure there is a clear favorite. I will probably put a Terrova 80 on my Redfisher at some point because the boat is so small and easy to get to the TM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shallowminded6 Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 This is good feed back to have on these type ofproducts. This should most likely be a seperate topic as well. But what trolling motor seems to be the most reliable? Probably my next purchase assuming my tank isnt on the fritz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanaflatsfish Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 Minnkotta is a global company....I'm sure they will be partnering with manufacturers and pressuring them to install the "minkotta system - TM, Raptor, Hummingbird, etc." on vessels. I don't know PP's reach, but, MK has more products to offer and probabably looked at the opportunity world wide.... USA - I can't imagine better Customer Service than PP, but, world wide- not sure of their footprint. That said, I wonder if the PP patent expired...it's WAY TO SIMILIAR to PP for them to just roll over on this design. I checked the install manual on the site...it's PP exactly...so, something is definately going on. DC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Troy Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 21 hours ago, bernieNC said: PP has to have good customer service with as much attention (repair)as a PP needs. What you been doing to it? Mine has been on the boat 10 years and other than the normal maintenance of bushings and a few broken spikes it has been flawless. It gets used at least 25 times per outing. The spikes show up the next day when I break one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernWake Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 15 hours ago, Shallowminded6 said: But what trolling motor seems to be the most reliable? Stiffy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whichwaysup Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 46 minutes ago, SouthernWake said: Stiffy oh, my, the possibilities with this one. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernWake Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, whichwaysup said: oh, my, the possibilities with this one. . . I don’t think I could have come up with a better name for a push pole brand. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason p Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 Anyone that has had warranty work done on a MinnKota TM will probably steer clear of this thing based on that process alone. PP has me for life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jh141 Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 17 hours ago, Shallowminded6 said: This is good feed back to have on these type ofproducts. This should most likely be a seperate topic as well. But what trolling motor seems to be the most reliable? Probably my next purchase assuming my tank isnt on the fritz. Rohdan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jh141 Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 2 hours ago, SouthernWake said: Stiffy Now that is hard to argue with LOL . I have a 24' Stiffy but using it to move my 22' is always short trem 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bernieNC Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 7 hours ago, Capt. Troy said: What you been doing to it? Mine has been on the boat 10 years and other than the normal maintenance of bushings and a few broken spikes it has been flawless. It gets used at least 25 times per outing. The spikes show up the next day when I break one. Trying to use it, after a few years it became unreliable. They replaced the board it would work then not work. They rebuilt the pump and it would work and then not work. Sent a new motor and pump it would work and then not work. This went on for three years till I lost all faith in it. So I lived on spot lock for a while. Last year I was ready the trash it and PP agreed to replace it with a new one (no charge to me). Good for them but they did know the history. So far so good. We shall see. Will not go down that road again. If this one poops I think I will spend the money on lithium batteries for spot lock, instead of a PP, and get a Stick It. PP’s are great when they work and a pain when they don’t or are intermittent. I ordered this Pathy new 7 years ago fully rigged and have spent more time dealing with the PP than everything else combined including detailing. I do not deal well with intermittent BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jh141 Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 Mine is eight years old and has never had problems like that. The problems you are describing have to be "1" in " a bunch" I have never heard anyone say their PP had work, not work problems. Power Pole has replaced anything that ever went wrong with mine for its life so far for free. That is unheard of in the market today. If they do that and had reliability problems they would have gone bankrupt by now. Sorry to hear your frustrations. I feel your pain but with MotorGuide........and they will NOT stand behind their product. They play the blame game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Troy Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 20 hours ago, bernieNC said: Trying to use it, after a few years it became unreliable. They replaced the board it would work then not work. They rebuilt the pump and it would work and then not work. Sent a new motor and pump it would work and then not work. This went on for three years till I lost all faith in it. So I lived on spot lock for a while. Last year I was ready the trash it and PP agreed to replace it with a new one (no charge to me). Good for them but they did know the history. So far so good. We shall see. Will not go down that road again. If this one poops I think I will spend the money on lithium batteries for spot lock, instead of a PP, and get a Stick It. PP’s are great when they work and a pain when they don’t or are intermittent. I ordered this Pathy new 7 years ago fully rigged and have spent more time dealing with the PP than everything else combined including detailing. I do not deal well with intermittent BS. Sounds like you got a lemon. The circles I run in most guys have 2 PP and I never hear of this type of stuff. I suppose it can happen. They sent you a new one at no charge. I think that speaks volumes! Lots of stuff on boats break. Most stuff costs you lots of money when it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bernieNC Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, Capt. Troy said: Sounds like you got a lemon. The circles I run in most guys have 2 PP and I never hear of this type of stuff. I suppose it can happen. They sent you a new one at no charge. I think that speaks volumes! Lots of stuff on boats break. Most stuff costs you lots of money when it does. Like I said the problems started after just a couple years. Then came the 4 years of trouble shooting, rebuilding, returning, and swapping out parts, with the unreliability thrown in. Trout season started and I did without that fall/winter. In our discussions it was made clear it was “ going away” one way or another. Like I said above “PP has to have good customer service with as much attention (repair)as a PP needs.” Look at how may folks on this board have needed some type of service and multiple times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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