RAMRAM Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 Team, Ive had a 2000 Pathfinder 1810 in the fam since 2003. Looking to Repower with Suzuki 140. Any guidance on whether I should be putting a jackplate or is that too much weight. I’d also like to put a power pole as well. If the jackplate is too much weight how about just the power pole. Also, does anyone know where I can get some Pathinder Decals 2022 version? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fin-addict Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 140 Zuke good choice. PP should not pose any problems. JP May have a wt issue, really don’t know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMRAM Posted April 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 Thanks fin-addict. Yeah from all the other threads I’ve read seems like wt in the aft could be an issue. So the JP might be an issue. I’ve gotten by w/o a JP for this long so not a huge concern just thought it be nice to have one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lap it Up Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 I would not own a bay boat or flats boat without either. Move all batteries to the console and work with stern lifting props to carry the load. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smilemaker Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 The weight of a power pole can be simulated with sand bags or water jugs if you are concerned. The jack plate is harder to simulate because much of its impact is the setback of the motor. I would love to see some real world numbers on the draft change with the jp setback using the same motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMRAM Posted April 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2022 Lap it up - that’s a good point! I really want one on boat. Just don’t want to over do it. Either way I’ll move the battery to the console with the trolling motor batteries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanaflatsfish Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 The 1810 was not "designed" for a JP; however, that said, if you feel you need it for your fishing style (they are great to idle in shallow water).. I would go with the Bob's (check the weight diff vs ATLAS)...... For Powerpole...should not have much of an effect....again, move the Powerpole pump as far forward as possible.... I see you have a large Yeti in front of the console...this should allow you to have a good balance... yes, move the starting battery to the console... the key difference I see it that with a JP, you WILL NEED TO USE TABS a good bit of the time to prevent proposing...but, that's what they are there for Enjoy rigging the boat....it's part of the fun. dc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HewesYourDaddy Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 I own a 1900T (same hull length with a tunnel near the aft end of the boat). I’m running a Suzuki 140 with Bob’s Jack plate. No issue at all. My trolling motor batteries are in the console also. House battery is in rear hatch but it really doesn’t affect my draft at idle. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMRAM Posted April 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 HewesYourDaddy, that’s exactly the info I was looking for perfect. Thank you! May I ask what your performance numbers are with that setup. Wot and mpg? Also what prop you running and do you like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMRAM Posted April 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 Wannaflatsfish seems like Bobs the JP to go with. I am gonna move the battery and I think that will offset enough weight for the JP and the power pole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shallowminded6 Posted April 22, 2022 Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 The Suzuki has an offset power head that moves the weight forward. Will probably alleviate the weight issue some. IE, my Zuke 140 weighs more than my 2 stroke Yam 150 did. Now my transom actually sits higher with the heavier 4 stroke than the yamaha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HewesYourDaddy Posted April 22, 2022 Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 10 hours ago, RAMRAM said: HewesYourDaddy, that’s exactly the info I was looking for perfect. Thank you! May I ask what your performance numbers are with that setup. Wot and mpg? Also what prop you running and do you like it. WOT I have seen 44mph with a half tank of gas, 2 persons at the helm, a cooler full of ice under the leaning post, and probably a live well full of water. Might be able to eek out another MPH or two if I changed props, but the tunnel hull requires me to run a very grippy prop so that I can turn without prop blowout. The tunnel hull is also much slower than the 1900V with similar power. I have no idea on MPG, but I can promise it gets very impressive fuel economy. Do I like it? Heck yes I like it! It's quiet, fuel efficient, reliable, runs a big impressive prop, etc... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxf255 Posted April 22, 2022 Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 This is an interesting thread for me, I appreciate the information. I have an 1806 (with a 150 HDPI) and have wondered about the re-power question. I’ve thought about what direction I would go and this will be good to keep in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cast nBlast Posted April 22, 2022 Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 Running a ‘99 1810-V repowered with a Yammie 175 SHO, with a Bob’s jackplate. All 3 batteries are under the console. No issues with my setup . . I really like it. I’ll admit the draft at idle is slightly lower due to the additional 80lbs of the 4-stroke, compared to the old Yammie 150hp 2-stroke I used to have hanging on it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMRAM Posted April 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2022 On 4/22/2022 at 6:40 PM, Cast nBlast said: Running a ‘99 1810-V repowered with a Yammie 175 SHO, with a Bob’s jackplate. All 3 batteries are under the console. No issues with my setup . . I really like it. I’ll admit the draft at idle is slightly lower due to the additional 80lbs of the 4-stroke, compared to the old Yammie 150hp 2-stroke I used to have hanging on it. Cast n Blast what’s the wot on that setup? Has to fly! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMRAM Posted April 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 Cast nBlast - also does the 480 lbs of the Yamaha 175 sho lower the aft so that the scuppers are below the waterline at rest? I wonder if by it self it wouldn’t but then add on the jack plate and the power pole and it might. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cast nBlast Posted April 27, 2022 Report Share Posted April 27, 2022 RamRam; the scuppers I believe are slightly above or maybe right at the waterline, but I’ve always kept those plugs in so it’s not been an issue for me. I normally cruise at 4,000 rpm with a speed of 42 mph. Running a Powertech TRO series 4 blade, 21p which is the same prop I was running on my old 150 2-stroke. With that prop I’m getting 56/57 mph at 5600 rpm, that’s with just me in the boat. I do intend to try a Bravo 1 FS one of these days to maximize performance . . but dang those things are pricey! Used to be about $750 pre-pandemic . . and now they run about $1,000! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HewesYourDaddy Posted April 27, 2022 Report Share Posted April 27, 2022 Like CastnBlast said, keep your scupper plugs in until you are running or need to let a lot of water out. I believe the cockpit drain configuration changed on the 2003 1900, which was a much better design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMRAM Posted May 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 On 4/27/2022 at 2:28 PM, Cast nBlast said: RamRam; the scuppers I believe are slightly above or maybe right at the waterline, but I’ve always kept those plugs in so it’s not been an issue for me. I normally cruise at 4,000 rpm with a speed of 42 mph. Running a Powertech TRO series 4 blade, 21p which is the same prop I was running on my old 150 2-stroke. With that prop I’m getting 56/57 mph at 5600 rpm, that’s with just me in the boat. I do intend to try a Bravo 1 FS one of these days to maximize performance . . but dang those things are pricey! Used to be about $750 pre-pandemic . . and now they run about $1,000! Well now you got me thinking maybe I should put a 175 Suzuki on it since the 150 is the same weight. Maybe scrap the power pole and keep the jackplate. At 511 pounds for the 175, I wonder if that would mess up the ride. The 175 sho is about 480 pounds so it’s a 30 pound difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMRAM Posted May 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2022 Dropped the pathy off this morning. Decided to go with the Zuke 140, Jack plate, and upgrade stereo, and dash panel. I have two stick it poles so those will do for now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cast nBlast Posted May 20, 2022 Report Share Posted May 20, 2022 On 5/16/2022 at 2:41 PM, RAMRAM said: Dropped the pathy off this morning. Decided to go with the Zuke 140, Jack plate, and upgrade stereo, and dash panel. I have two stick it poles so those will do for now. Cool, let us know how it all turns out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradM Posted May 20, 2022 Report Share Posted May 20, 2022 As mentioned, move the cranking battery to the console, and you will also lose the oil tank for the two stroke(every little bit helps). I had a 1900v for a while and tried running my TM batteries in the bow, which did nothing for the ride, but made bow steer hellish. I found locating the batteries in the console was the best of all worlds. Not sure what the set up is under your console, but you may want to make a tray or plate to handle the weight of all those batteries. I bought a piece of 1" Coosa Board from Boat Outfitters and finish cut it to fit in there, then laminated it with chopped mat and ploy resin. I did NOT tab it in, it was removeable with standard screws, as it allows access to wire runs etc. if necessary when out. Be sure to post up pictures when it's all buttoned up, I can't wait to see it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02 Tex Pathy Posted May 20, 2022 Report Share Posted May 20, 2022 I think it was good to go with the 140. I believe the extra weight of the 150 or 175 plus the jack plate increases the stress on an older transom then just the weight of the components as the jack plate acts like a lever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HewesYourDaddy Posted May 26, 2022 Report Share Posted May 26, 2022 Lookin good!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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