Cost for 100 hour service on 200 SHO

[Mike45q]

What should the approximate cost be for 100 hour service on a Yamaha 200 SHO. I know I got gouged just not sure how much. Can you do it yourself and still protect your warranty? I have the extended warranty to a full 5 years. Oh it cost me $900 for just the basic service.

Feeling Had

 

Mike

[fishmanjj]

On my F 150......spark plugs, water pump, several filters, crank case oil change , gear case oil changed, etc.......$ 525.00 at a local Yamaha authorized dealer / service shop. ( one year ago )

[dabear]

Family Boating Center - looked on line - 100 hrs service on a 200 -parts-labor-oil-shop supplies-EPA -Tax -total $ 579.11 

. Joe R.

[Bamaskeet]

Get out your tools, you can save a bunch of money plus you know it's done right.

[flatwater]

Do it on your own! You will save hundreds 

[SCFD rtrd.]

Yep!!! I got gouged on my first 100 hr. service from the dealership where I bought the boat (about $900). Now it take my rig to a local guy in Englewood. The 200 hr. service was about $500 and the 300 hr. was about $450.

[jason p]

http://www.simyamaha.com/category_s/2340.htm

http://www.simyamaha.com/Yamaha_Water_Pump_Repair_Kit_p/6cb-w0078-00-00.htm

Been using SIM Yamaha for years, $168 for the 100hr kit and $101 for the water pump kit for your SHO and like stated above you know its done right. You can dispose of the oil yourself for free the next time you're in any auto parts store.

Warranty: I will tell you doing my own maintenance didn't void mine or anybody else's I know but you could call Yamaha yourself and get it right from them, my wife doesn't believe half of what I say nor should you.

There's a debate over whether using non-Yamalube oil will void your warranty and a lot of internet attorneys will say "doesn't matter, that's illegal, etc..." I used to fish the SKA series on a Contender with F350s. We were coming in one day and the center engine spun a bearing which led to various other mechanical failures as well. The first thing Yamaha requested was for the dealer take an oil sample from the affected engine, I know this to be true because the service manager and the dealership owner were on the team as well. I don't know if they wouldn't have honored the warranty or if they were just inquiring so they could try to see what led to the failure, but I personally always ran Yamalube just to avoid any extra hurdles when dealing with any warranty issues.

[Headhunter]

$500 to $600 at Boaters Exchange. Just did mine.

[DonV]

Gonna step on a lot of toes here because MBG and most of the folks on this forum are Yamaha all the way. However as I'm going through the process of researching engines in the 250 to 300 hp range for a re-power, at this point Yamaha is at the bottom of my list for various reasons and reason #1 is the crazy costs the dealers want and as the OP stated were his cost for scheduled service. As I ask the dealers simple questions, such as mandatory service costs, rigging estimates, "out the door total", etc. I have found most Yamaha re-power folks think we are all made of money. I totally understand how the engine price is absorbed in the cost of a new boat/trailer combination but Yamaha is killing poor folks like me on re-power estimates.

 

mike45q, I'm with "flatwater", do it yourself.

[Headhunter]

Don, check Honda out. I loved the little one I put on the Maverick. If you want a Honda re-power guy I have one if you want to come up here.

[MPFit]

I got my own 100hr kit at Marine Rebuild Specialists in Largo, FL- cost about 130 for my 2 stroke and I'll do it myself. That shop is a certified Mercury, Yamaha, Suzuki, Honda, and Evinrude shop. I ask everywhere I go which to repower with- and what they reccomend. As a dealer of all the manufacturers- they say Suzuki. They told me the engines are practically the same (Honda, Yamaha, and Suzuki). That they do fair amounts of work on Evinrude power heads, and that Mercury is getting better but not quiet at the Japanese level yet. From there- he went on to say that the Suzuki is 80% cheaper per part for service, Honda is 60% cheaper per part for service compared to Yamaha. But that Honda hasn't made any upgrades to their motors and are more expensive upfront. He said Suzuki is **in their opinion** the most reliable engine on the market and cheapest to maintain 4 Stroke. When I repower my 2stroke VMAX 150 I'll go DF140. But this engine is bulletproof and idk if I'll ever get there.

[DonV]

There is no doubt Suzuki has the re-power market covered. I have six of my friends who have re-powered with the 300 Suzuki and are ecstatic with it's performance. In all fairness I must say I've had two Yamahas and the 90hp  2 stroke was without a doubt one of the top three engines I've ever owned, so I'm not anti Yamaha by any means. But in my world $4k to $5k difference is real money. Unfortunately some of us are not John Greviskis from Ship Shape info-TV and can get stuff free or at a large discount to advertise for marine manufactures. 

[jason p]

I'm putting a Zuke or Mercury ProXS on mine when needed. 

[Wanaflatsfish]

On 5/26/2017 at 0:15 PM, Mike45q said:

What should the approximate cost be for 100 hour service on a Yamaha 200 SHO. I know I got gouged just not sure how much. Can you do it yourself and still protect your warranty? I have the extended warranty to a full 5 years. Oh it cost me $900 for just the basic service.

Feeling Had

 

Mike

 

Can you provide details on what was performed?

@ 100 hrs, there is not much to do...honestly.

Maybe plugs if they need it, filters, lower unit,  oil.  that's about it.  $900?

That's two hours labor @ max $100 / hr = $200 plus parts = $200 max. = $400-450

No reason to pull the lower unit for impeller @ 100 hrs....or anything much more than this....I'm really with my dealer here in FLL - he's been fair and honest...

I usually buy all my own parts and DIY - but, if it relates to carbs or other issue electrical - I'll take it in.

 

dc

 

[Bamaskeet]

22 hours ago, jason p said:

http://www.simyamaha.com/category_s/2340.htm

http://www.simyamaha.com/Yamaha_Water_Pump_Repair_Kit_p/6cb-w0078-00-00.htm

Been using SIM Yamaha for years, $168 for the 100hr kit and $101 for the water pump kit for your SHO and like stated above you know its done right. You can dispose of the oil yourself for free the next time you're in any auto parts store.

Warranty: I will tell you doing my own maintenance didn't void mine or anybody else's I know but you could call Yamaha yourself and get it right from them, my wife doesn't believe half of what I say nor should you.

There's a debate over whether using non-Yamalube oil will void your warranty and a lot of internet attorneys will say "doesn't matter, that's illegal, etc..." I used to fish the SKA series on a Contender with F350s. We were coming in one day and the center engine spun a bearing which led to various other mechanical failures as well. The first thing Yamaha requested was for the dealer take an oil sample from the affected engine, I know this to be true because the service manager and the dealership owner were on the team as well. I don't know if they wouldn't have honored the warranty or if they were just inquiring so they could try to see what led to the failure, but I personally always ran Yamalube just to avoid any extra hurdles when dealing with any warranty issues.

Your Yamaha instruction manual clearly states oil specifications.  Many off the shelf oils meet those specifications.  So you do not need to buy Yamaha oil.  In fact a Camry oil filter will fit a F150 and is 1/3 the cost.

My F150 has been running fine for 1900 hours, so far, on Pennzoil 10W30, bought from Walmart at $17 for 5 quarts.

[jason p]

Got it, I wasn't stating fact as it pertains to Yamaha's warranty claim procedures and policies, just what I've heard from people that deal with Yamaha on a daily basis and my own personal experience (4 years ago). I had a lot of lower unit issues with my F115 and every time I got passed to different person at Yamaha the first question was the brand of gear oil I was using. Again, nobody at Yamaha ever said they wouldn't honor the warranty for using other brands of oil. I just used Yamalube while my motor was under warranty because I wanted to mitigate any possible hurdles during the warranty claim process. The frequency in which I was asked about the brand of oil (every phone call-multiple times) leads me to speculate that the first suggestion to "fix" my lower unit seal issue was to put Yamalube in it.

 

[DonV]

"The frequency in which I was asked about the brand of oil (every phone call-multiple times) leads me to speculate that the first suggestion to "fix" my lower unit seal issue was to put Yamalube in it"

What did they think you would put in it, Dollar General gear lube, or maybe the Circle K high performance lube? As is normal in many warranty problems they're hoping to find something the customer did wrong, not just Yamaha,  

[Bamaskeet]

You've got to remember that inadequate lubrication is the number one cause of bearing and gear premature wear/failure.  So that's the first place the factory is going to look.

Yamaha clearly spells out their oil specifications in their owners manual.  There's a lot of good quality oils that meet those specs.

[jason p]

20 hours ago, DonV said:

...As is normal in many warranty problems they're hoping to find something the customer did wrong, not just Yamaha,  

Totally agree. 

[MPFit]

I agree also. It's more than likely they are looking for a non spec'd oil as opposed to yamalube. Interesting to hear though

[linesider 159]

I paid 330 for my 100 hour service (fuel filters, gear lube, oil and oil filter). That was a 250 sho

[johnd]

For some reason dealers often set price based on HP.   My 140 Suzuki 100 hour generally runs $300.. the 300 hour with water pump just over $500... but darn last trip found a bunch of odds & ends that needed replacement and bill was $900.  I'm not complaining (and I'm not doing myself). A few times ago the kid who did service dropped a piece of my cowling and cracked it.  I did not see when I picked up, my regular fishing buddy spotted a few days later.  No argument, dealer replaced at his cost

port canaveral located in BluePoints is Marine One.  He's a Merc guy, but does other engines. 

[Wanaflatsfish]

17 hours ago, MPFit said:

I agree also. It's more than likely they are looking for a non spec'd oil as opposed to yamalube. Interesting to hear though

I had a blown power-head on my last F150 due to a factory defect - some type of "idler" rod inside the engine went and it was making a "ticking" noise that I heard....thank god I came straight back to the dock when it began - yes, it was my last night trip yellow tailing...

First question at the dealer - "Are you using Yamalube ?"  for me, no issues, I only use Yamalube on all my engines....yes, can you save a few $$$ ? Of course, but, at least in my simple mind - why not....for the price of a 6 pack of good beer, a lost or two pop's cork, or a bag or two of chips - each trip- the cost for me is not meaningful - so, I use Yamalube in the upper and lower unit systems...I know there are gear-heads who are technically more experienced and can argue me into gear-head heaven, but, if Yamaha has their name on it.....I figure, why not?

Yamaha replaced the entire upper block, labor, etc...the only thing I paid for was the plugs and the oil....yeah, sounded silly to me, but, it was due for a 100 service any-hoo

 

dc

 

[jason p]

Now I know of three people. 

[MPFit]

I've used Yamalube. If my motor was under warranty; I'd continue to use it. I have no qualms with the cost or quality of yamalube or any manufacturers brand of oil. Use whatever you'd like. I use West Marine TCW3 2 stroke in my vmax happily. Never had a problem-- but if it WAS under warranty I'd absolutely use Yamalube.

The debate is the Law; they cannot deny warranty through use of non spec'd oil. Brand is irrelevant. Again either way- while under warranty my advice is always do what manufacturers recommend. Once out of warranty it's all on you and your wallet either way so do what you're comfortable with.